

The Crypto Tape
The Crypto Tape
with Frank Chaparro
with Frank Chaparro
The Crypto Tape goes inside the conversations shaping digital finance. Each episode features candid discussions with founders, executives, and market makers at the center of crypto, DeFi, and real-world asset tokenization.
The Crypto Tape goes inside the conversations shaping digital finance. Each episode features candid discussions with founders, executives, and market makers at the center of crypto, DeFi, and real-world asset tokenization.


The Desk
The Desk
with Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer
with Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer
The Desk is GSR’s research-driven podcast that dives into the data underpinning crypto and digital asset markets. Featuring GSR experts alongside leading voices from across the industry, each episode goes beyond the headlines to explore the charts shaping the future of digital assets.
The Desk is GSR’s research-driven podcast that dives into the data underpinning crypto and digital asset markets. Featuring GSR experts alongside leading voices from across the industry, each episode goes beyond the headlines to explore the charts shaping the future of digital assets.
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The Crypto Tape
The Desk

Tokenization Is the Digitization of Value with Hayden Adams
The Crypto Tape Episode 44
Hayden Adams, founder of Uniswap, joins Frank Chaparro at the RWA Summit to argue that tokenization is the digitization of value. He explains why AMMs win on cost of capital rather than raw efficiency, how correlated pairs decouple what TradFi bundles in dollars, and why Uniswap is a liquidity network, not a decentralized exchange.

Tokenization Is the Digitization of Value with Hayden Adams
The Crypto Tape Episode 44
Hayden Adams, founder of Uniswap, joins Frank Chaparro at the RWA Summit to argue that tokenization is the digitization of value. He explains why AMMs win on cost of capital rather than raw efficiency, how correlated pairs decouple what TradFi bundles in dollars, and why Uniswap is a liquidity network, not a decentralized exchange.

Tokenization Is the Digitization of Value with Hayden Adams
The Crypto Tape Episode 44
Hayden Adams, founder of Uniswap, joins Frank Chaparro at the RWA Summit to argue that tokenization is the digitization of value. He explains why AMMs win on cost of capital rather than raw efficiency, how correlated pairs decouple what TradFi bundles in dollars, and why Uniswap is a liquidity network, not a decentralized exchange.

The Remittance Myth and Why Banks Are the Endgame with Chris Maurice
The Crypto Tape Episode 43
Chris Maurice, CEO of Yellow Card, joins Frank Chaparro to separate stablecoin hype from reality. Running payment infrastructure in 50+ countries, he argues remittances haven't been revolutionized because middlemen still pocket the savings, banks are allies rather than enemies, and the yield fight is really about bank margins.

The Remittance Myth and Why Banks Are the Endgame with Chris Maurice
The Crypto Tape Episode 43
Chris Maurice, CEO of Yellow Card, joins Frank Chaparro to separate stablecoin hype from reality. Running payment infrastructure in 50+ countries, he argues remittances haven't been revolutionized because middlemen still pocket the savings, banks are allies rather than enemies, and the yield fight is really about bank margins.

The Remittance Myth and Why Banks Are the Endgame with Chris Maurice
The Crypto Tape Episode 43
Chris Maurice, CEO of Yellow Card, joins Frank Chaparro to separate stablecoin hype from reality. Running payment infrastructure in 50+ countries, he argues remittances haven't been revolutionized because middlemen still pocket the savings, banks are allies rather than enemies, and the yield fight is really about bank margins.

The Parallel Track the SEC Is Building for Crypto with Kristin Smith
The Crypto Tape Episode 42
Kristin Smith, President of the Solana Policy Institute, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a clear-eyed read on crypto's policy fight. She explains why the CLARITY Act is far from dead, with a bipartisan Senate vote still live for September, and why the SEC and CFTC are building a parallel track toward an innovation exemption for tokenized securities. She also flags the one regulatory move that could bring a slice of a $100 trillion market onchain.

The Parallel Track the SEC Is Building for Crypto with Kristin Smith
The Crypto Tape Episode 42
Kristin Smith, President of the Solana Policy Institute, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a clear-eyed read on crypto's policy fight. She explains why the CLARITY Act is far from dead, with a bipartisan Senate vote still live for September, and why the SEC and CFTC are building a parallel track toward an innovation exemption for tokenized securities. She also flags the one regulatory move that could bring a slice of a $100 trillion market onchain.

The Parallel Track the SEC Is Building for Crypto with Kristin Smith
The Crypto Tape Episode 42
Kristin Smith, President of the Solana Policy Institute, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a clear-eyed read on crypto's policy fight. She explains why the CLARITY Act is far from dead, with a bipartisan Senate vote still live for September, and why the SEC and CFTC are building a parallel track toward an innovation exemption for tokenized securities. She also flags the one regulatory move that could bring a slice of a $100 trillion market onchain.

The Desk – Why 63% of Hyperliquid's Volume Isn't Crypto
The Desk Episode 3
Spencer Hallarn, GSR's Global Head of Markets, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer on episode three of The Desk. He explains why RWA perps made up 63% of Hyperliquid volume last week, what Bitcoin's implied volatility sitting in the second percentile of the year means for current conditions, and how retail's appetite for speculation has found a better story in AI and 50x leverage

The Desk – Why 63% of Hyperliquid's Volume Isn't Crypto
The Desk Episode 3
Spencer Hallarn, GSR's Global Head of Markets, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer on episode three of The Desk. He explains why RWA perps made up 63% of Hyperliquid volume last week, what Bitcoin's implied volatility sitting in the second percentile of the year means for current conditions, and how retail's appetite for speculation has found a better story in AI and 50x leverage

The Desk – Why 63% of Hyperliquid's Volume Isn't Crypto
The Desk Episode 3
Spencer Hallarn, GSR's Global Head of Markets, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer on episode three of The Desk. He explains why RWA perps made up 63% of Hyperliquid volume last week, what Bitcoin's implied volatility sitting in the second percentile of the year means for current conditions, and how retail's appetite for speculation has found a better story in AI and 50x leverage

The Transfer-Agent Bet and the Road to Onchain Equities with Carlos Domingo
The Crypto Tape Episode 41
Carlos Domingo, CEO of Securitize, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a grounded look at where tokenization stands today. He explains why tokenization only needs a sliver of the equities market to be transformational, why Securitize's 2019 bet registering as a transfer agent now makes those firms gatekeepers for tokenizing the biggest names, and how the SpaceX IPO-access mess showed the industry the right way to distribute shares.

The Transfer-Agent Bet and the Road to Onchain Equities with Carlos Domingo
The Crypto Tape Episode 41
Carlos Domingo, CEO of Securitize, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a grounded look at where tokenization stands today. He explains why tokenization only needs a sliver of the equities market to be transformational, why Securitize's 2019 bet registering as a transfer agent now makes those firms gatekeepers for tokenizing the biggest names, and how the SpaceX IPO-access mess showed the industry the right way to distribute shares.

The Transfer-Agent Bet and the Road to Onchain Equities with Carlos Domingo
The Crypto Tape Episode 41
Carlos Domingo, CEO of Securitize, joins Frank Chaparro on The Crypto Tape for a grounded look at where tokenization stands today. He explains why tokenization only needs a sliver of the equities market to be transformational, why Securitize's 2019 bet registering as a transfer agent now makes those firms gatekeepers for tokenizing the biggest names, and how the SpaceX IPO-access mess showed the industry the right way to distribute shares.

Why Meme Coins Still Beat RWAs On-Chain, with Andy from The Rollup
The Desk Episode 2
Andy, co-founder of The Rollup, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer for episode two of The Desk to explore crypto’s strongest fundamentals story: meme coins and DEXs. They discuss Pump.fun’s resilient revenue, the rise of on-chain real-world asset markets, and Hyperliquid’s growing non-crypto perps. Andy also highlights CXMT’s sharp repricing on Hyperliquid and the shift toward tokenized equity as token floats decline.

Why Meme Coins Still Beat RWAs On-Chain, with Andy from The Rollup
The Desk Episode 2
Andy, co-founder of The Rollup, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer for episode two of The Desk to explore crypto’s strongest fundamentals story: meme coins and DEXs. They discuss Pump.fun’s resilient revenue, the rise of on-chain real-world asset markets, and Hyperliquid’s growing non-crypto perps. Andy also highlights CXMT’s sharp repricing on Hyperliquid and the shift toward tokenized equity as token floats decline.

Why Meme Coins Still Beat RWAs On-Chain, with Andy from The Rollup
The Desk Episode 2
Andy, co-founder of The Rollup, joins Frank Chaparro and Slater Santer for episode two of The Desk to explore crypto’s strongest fundamentals story: meme coins and DEXs. They discuss Pump.fun’s resilient revenue, the rise of on-chain real-world asset markets, and Hyperliquid’s growing non-crypto perps. Andy also highlights CXMT’s sharp repricing on Hyperliquid and the shift toward tokenized equity as token floats decline.

Why Institutions See Bitcoin as a Discounted Asset with Laura Vidiella
The Crypto Tape Episode 40
Laura Vidiella of VanEck joins Frank Chaparro to share what she's hearing from institutional allocators, and why their read on this market looks nothing like the panic in retail. Laura leads investor relations across VanEck's crypto funds, from early-stage venture to liquid strategies. She explains why institutions see Bitcoin as a discounted asset, why 2021 is better understood as R&D money than venture capital, and why October 10 was a lesson in nomenclature, not leverage — plus the fintech, AI, and stablecoins convergence thesis, and VanEck's tokenization roadmap.

Why Institutions See Bitcoin as a Discounted Asset with Laura Vidiella
The Crypto Tape Episode 40
Laura Vidiella of VanEck joins Frank Chaparro to share what she's hearing from institutional allocators, and why their read on this market looks nothing like the panic in retail. Laura leads investor relations across VanEck's crypto funds, from early-stage venture to liquid strategies. She explains why institutions see Bitcoin as a discounted asset, why 2021 is better understood as R&D money than venture capital, and why October 10 was a lesson in nomenclature, not leverage — plus the fintech, AI, and stablecoins convergence thesis, and VanEck's tokenization roadmap.

Why Institutions See Bitcoin as a Discounted Asset with Laura Vidiella
The Crypto Tape Episode 40
Laura Vidiella of VanEck joins Frank Chaparro to share what she's hearing from institutional allocators, and why their read on this market looks nothing like the panic in retail. Laura leads investor relations across VanEck's crypto funds, from early-stage venture to liquid strategies. She explains why institutions see Bitcoin as a discounted asset, why 2021 is better understood as R&D money than venture capital, and why October 10 was a lesson in nomenclature, not leverage — plus the fintech, AI, and stablecoins convergence thesis, and VanEck's tokenization roadmap.

The Fragmentation Myth and Onchain Prime Brokerage with Ian de Bode
The Crypto Tape Episode 39
Ian de Bode, CEO and President of Ondo Finance, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss how tokenization is bringing traditional financial assets onchain. With ~$4B in TVL across tokenized treasuries, stocks, and ETFs, Ian shares his view on global access to US capital markets, liquidity concerns around tokenized equities, and the collateral challenges keeping perps from broader institutional adoption.

The Fragmentation Myth and Onchain Prime Brokerage with Ian de Bode
The Crypto Tape Episode 39
Ian de Bode, CEO and President of Ondo Finance, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss how tokenization is bringing traditional financial assets onchain. With ~$4B in TVL across tokenized treasuries, stocks, and ETFs, Ian shares his view on global access to US capital markets, liquidity concerns around tokenized equities, and the collateral challenges keeping perps from broader institutional adoption.

The Fragmentation Myth and Onchain Prime Brokerage with Ian de Bode
The Crypto Tape Episode 39
Ian de Bode, CEO and President of Ondo Finance, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss how tokenization is bringing traditional financial assets onchain. With ~$4B in TVL across tokenized treasuries, stocks, and ETFs, Ian shares his view on global access to US capital markets, liquidity concerns around tokenized equities, and the collateral challenges keeping perps from broader institutional adoption.

How Banks Earn 5% of Your Cash and Pay You Zero with Nick Van Eck
The Desk Episode 1
Nick Van Eck, CEO of Agora, explains on The Desk how stablecoins are disrupting traditional banking: banks pay almost nothing on checking accounts while capturing the Fed funds rate, eroding 40% of purchasing power over 20 years. Agora offers yield backed by T-bills via AUSD, is pursuing a federal banking license, and projects the stablecoin market will grow from $300B to $1T.

How Banks Earn 5% of Your Cash and Pay You Zero with Nick Van Eck
The Desk Episode 1
Nick Van Eck, CEO of Agora, explains on The Desk how stablecoins are disrupting traditional banking: banks pay almost nothing on checking accounts while capturing the Fed funds rate, eroding 40% of purchasing power over 20 years. Agora offers yield backed by T-bills via AUSD, is pursuing a federal banking license, and projects the stablecoin market will grow from $300B to $1T.

How Banks Earn 5% of Your Cash and Pay You Zero with Nick Van Eck
The Desk Episode 1
Nick Van Eck, CEO of Agora, explains on The Desk how stablecoins are disrupting traditional banking: banks pay almost nothing on checking accounts while capturing the Fed funds rate, eroding 40% of purchasing power over 20 years. Agora offers yield backed by T-bills via AUSD, is pursuing a federal banking license, and projects the stablecoin market will grow from $300B to $1T.

Why Nobody's Talking About Price with Scott Melker
The Crypto Tape Episode 38
Scott Melker joins Frank Chaparro to discuss the CLARITY Act's coin-flip odds, the ethics debate around presidential crypto involvement, and how Trump's meme coin reshaped it. He also explains why price talk has faded at institutional events, where "adoption" has meant retail products rather than firms buying tokens for themselves, and reflects on his shift toward a more measured voice bridging crypto and TradFi.

Why Nobody's Talking About Price with Scott Melker
The Crypto Tape Episode 38
Scott Melker joins Frank Chaparro to discuss the CLARITY Act's coin-flip odds, the ethics debate around presidential crypto involvement, and how Trump's meme coin reshaped it. He also explains why price talk has faded at institutional events, where "adoption" has meant retail products rather than firms buying tokens for themselves, and reflects on his shift toward a more measured voice bridging crypto and TradFi.

Why Nobody's Talking About Price with Scott Melker
The Crypto Tape Episode 38
Scott Melker joins Frank Chaparro to discuss the CLARITY Act's coin-flip odds, the ethics debate around presidential crypto involvement, and how Trump's meme coin reshaped it. He also explains why price talk has faded at institutional events, where "adoption" has meant retail products rather than firms buying tokens for themselves, and reflects on his shift toward a more measured voice bridging crypto and TradFi.


